How to Travel from

Baar to Munich

by Plane, Rideshare or Car

Switzerland Germany Baar Munich

How to Get from Baar to Munich

Plane

1 h

Select a Ticket

Car

3 h 14 min

from $18

Rideshare

3 h 14 min

from $12.75

Cheapest

By car (335 km)

3 h 14 min

335 km.

from $18

Fastest

Other

Rideshare

3 h 14 min

335 km.

from $12.74

What is the cheapest way to get from Baar to Munich?

The cheapest way to get from Baar to Munich is car at a price of $1., the journey takes 3 h 14 min.

What is the fastest way to get from Baar to Munich?

The fastest way to get from Baar to Munich is plane at a price of $86.96., the journey takes 1 h 0 min.

Is there a direct Plane from Baar to Munich?

Yes, there is a direct Plane, departing from Baar and arriving in Munich. The trip takes approximately 1 h 0 min.

What is the distance from Baar to Munich?

The distance between Baar and Munich is 335 km.

How long does the trip from Baar to Munich?

The journey from Baar to Munich takes approximately 2 h 29 min.

Is there a direct Car from Baar to Munich?

Yes, there is a direct Car, departing from Baar and arriving in Munich. The trip takes approximately 3 h 14 min.

Is there a direct Rideshare from Baar to Munich?

Yes, there is a direct Rideshare, departing from Baar and arriving in Munich. The trip takes approximately 3 h 14 min.

Book in Munich

Living Hotel am Deutschen Museum

Rablstr. 10, Munich

Fine

8.8

1 review

Novotel München City Arnulfpark

Arnulfstrasse 57, Munich

Great

Motel One Munich - Parkstadt Schwabing

Anni-Albers-Strasse 10, Munich

Fine

8.9

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