How to Travel from

Greven to Munich

by Plane, Rideshare or Car

Germany Greven Munich

How to Get from Greven to Munich

Plane

1 h 21 min

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Car

5 h 35 min

from $37

Rideshare

5 h 35 min

from $8.92

Cheapest

By car (684 km)

5 h 35 min

684 km.

from $37

Fastest

Other

Rideshare

5 h 35 min

684 km.

from $8.92

What is the cheapest way to get from Greven to Munich?

The cheapest way to get from Greven to Munich is car at a price of $1., the journey takes 5 h 35 min.

What is the fastest way to get from Greven to Munich?

The fastest way to get from Greven to Munich is plane at a price of $105.22., the journey takes 1 h 21 min.

Is there a direct Plane from Greven to Munich?

Yes, there is a direct Plane, departing from Greven and arriving in Munich. The trip takes approximately 1 h 21 min.

What is the distance from Greven to Munich?

The distance between Greven and Munich is 684 km.

How long does the trip from Greven to Munich?

The journey from Greven to Munich takes approximately 4 h 10 min.

Is there a direct Car from Greven to Munich?

Yes, there is a direct Car, departing from Greven and arriving in Munich. The trip takes approximately 5 h 35 min.

Is there a direct Rideshare from Greven to Munich?

Yes, there is a direct Rideshare, departing from Greven and arriving in Munich. The trip takes approximately 5 h 35 min.

Book in Munich

Living Hotel am Deutschen Museum

Rablstr. 10, Munich

Fine

8.8

1 review

Novotel München City Arnulfpark

Arnulfstrasse 57, Munich

Great

Motel One Munich - Parkstadt Schwabing

Anni-Albers-Strasse 10, Munich

Fine

8.9

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